Here is the whole damn mess, In as close chronolgical order as I can make it.. I will change the shades of differnt people to make it easyer to read.

Well, went over to spend time with my brothers. What a dumb ass idea that was. My younger brother just can't help but be an ass at times I guess. Don't want to be to hard on him but jesus, he really ruined tonite for me. Spent the whole night giveing me shit for stuff that happened 10 years ago. The he decides we HAVE to go see this view from the top of some hill down the road. Its a view, woohoo. I have flown over most of southern Maine, I have climbed damn near every mountain in Maine and NH I don't need to see some view by moonlight. But I was polite and went and smiled, trying like hell to enjoy for his sake. He had in my opionion to much to drink and was trying to show off for some reason. Drove like a banshee and I guess I failed to be impressed. Sigh. No really I tried, I tried real hard. He was a complete ass, but I just let it go and kept changeing the subject. But no he could not shut up if his life depended on it. Maybe he wasn't drunk, but if so its worse, cause being drunk he at least had an escuse for being such a complete asshole. My older Bro was very cool and put up with it better than me, but if I want abuse I will go pick a fight with the XGF's dumb ass daughter. So anyways, I guess for now all plans to do shit are off. I was gonna go down the Saco with them tomarrow, but frankly I would rather clean my sock drawer. It would be cool to be able to spend time with them both but I have no need to be abused for hours stuck in a canoe. So fuck him. If and when he wants to grow up I am here. It just so sad, I really thought he had his life in gear. He has a great GF who has 2 for all I could see great kids. Got a nice place, and seemed to have his life in gear. But it is just not cool to hold his whole life against me. I don't make him drink or do drugs so deal with your own problems. Was gonna go out to dinner with them all, give the women folk a chance to all meet and gossip or whatever. But much as I would like to at least take my older bro out, it would prob cause way to much tension there. We shall see, I will let them decide what they want to do. Just glad he didnt pull this shit in a resturant, cause I would have walked out. So anyways, I took the whole week off and now I guess I can do some of the crap I needed to get done. We shall see. Lord knows I am not the easyest person allways to deal with. I was tired tonite and I prob shoulda said no, But I was really looking forward to makeing a bond with the moron. Oh well live and learn I guess a lepord never changes his spots. Of course the person who really suffers is my Older bro. Well I tried, nothing else I can do. posted by Chuck Pierce 12:13 AM

Well did not really sleep worth a shit, but life goes on. I guess my problem is I am just not good at dealing with irationality. If I do something wrong, and you get pissed fine. Hell if ya wait 20 mins I am sure to do something you can get pissed at, but to give me crap for an hour over dumbass stuff just really bugs me. Be interesting to see how he behaves if he was dry for a few weeks. Oh well screw it I have enough important things to obsess over. Off like a turd of hurtles.posted by Chuck Pierce 7:30 AM

Some unhappy people feel the need to share/dump thier misery on others. In his
mind you were there at the right time and place. He might also be jealous about
something. Who knows. Just know that it's not really you he is mad at. He's more
likely mad at himself.
"It's a beautiful day" Dear. Go hug a tree, be merry, and play. Love ya lots!
little fire 10/03/01 09:43am

It was a shame that I can't get my two (ONLY) brothers together and try to have a
nice time, without everyone getting mad and saying shit that is un called for. It
seems that from an outsiders point of view, that both of them were trying to make
the other one mad, What a shame! One day both of you are going to try to think of
all the MISSED opportunities you both had and didn't try to be BROTHERS. When your
GONE you are GONE.

Larry
Big Bro10/03/01 12:52pm

I don't agree, but then again, I am good at it (not agreeing)
Chuck 10/03/01 01:22pm

Don't get me wrong because I do like the little bro (after all, I went to school with
him), BUT maybe if he dried up, or at least was strait when Chuck visited things
would go smoother.
little fire 10/03/01 01:52pm

After a phone call,,,,

Well I am not overly pleased about this brother crap. But screw it. He knows how to find me and the conditions I will accept. He has not been in my life for a long ass time and life will go on with out him in the future I am sure. Just a shame that he could not have just shut up while the big bro was visting. Oh well screw it.<br>So what else is going on today, Eating a crap load of the apple pieces I dried the other day. Played on the comp for a few hours. cleaned for about 12 secs, and now bored. Oh well I will keep myself occupied I am sure. Feel damn dumb for takeing the week off for what turned out to be a useless reason posted by Chuck Pierce 2:35 PM

Well now I think I need to take a breather, but I am not gonna. So strap on the saftey belts cause I am pissed.<br><p>Let me start off by saying, This is MY place. Period. I allow and encorage comments and feedback. But I say what I damn well please about whomever I please. Some poeple are adult enough to respect this and if they do not like what they are going to read they do NOT come here. But to put it simply, anyone who wants can at any time disagree with anything I say, but hire your own hall. People now a days, hmm let me make that kids, never learned to respect property rights. This is MY place, period. So if you don't want to be mentioned on here, don't fuck with my life. If you don't like what I say feel free to send me an email and I will forward my lawyers office number. This rant is brought to you curtosy of...posted by Chuck Pierce 8:07 PM

Glen C Pierce<br>Who just ordered me to no longer talk about him. Well tough. He told me and I am almost quoting to not use his name or he will beat me senseless. Well, wrong attitude shithead.<br>But since I really don't need to fight with anyone especially a complete fucking moron, we will refer to him as a new acronym. I think CFM fits really well don't you? The sad thing is it was apparent to me by the way he was acting he is not so much mad at me but mad at himself, so I should just blow it off and let it go, but I don't feel the need. Screw you, and your attitude. It is your life and you can do what you want, but I resend my earlier offer to wait a bit and see if you calm down. You complain you have never had a big brother, well maybe is cause you are such a poisonous little snot. I was so excited that you seemed to have your act in gear, but I was deluding myself. Lets do a short retake, seen you 3 times in the past few years, all in the last few weeks. Every time I have, you have had your hand on a drink. I take you out with me and a friend and yes we had a real good time, but you drank steadily the whole time, and when your buddy offered you a bowl you sure as hell didn't say no. Yes it was nice of you to move downwind, but bragging about how good weed you found and how you spent 250 bucks on a bag of it the night before makes me sick. It was cool of you too bring some fireworks and they were fun, but notice you were shooting them in my direction within minutes. All in all you are a complete fuck up. I don't do drugs, I don't like people who do drugs. And I don't spend time with people who do drugs. Most people can at least respect my feeling and keep it out of my face.<br>The fact you can't learn to shut the hell up and let me spend some time with my other brother is mind boggling. And the fact you got so worked up about a dumbass argument about what the lights on the horizon are is unbelievable. Sad part is you were wrong, sorry if you have lived there for years, but you were wrong. I was also wrong in part funnily enough, but it is stupid to tell someone who has climbed most of the towers in the area what is what. Hell I have changed a few of the light bulbs on the towers we were looking at so it was a dumbass argument.<br>You are going to be 30 years old this year, and you are still a CFM. You have a as far as I could tell a wonderful girlfriend with 2 cute kids. But I for one am scared to consider you in a house with 2 kids. You might be the greatest thing in their lives, I don't know, but your actions so far tell me you need to be in a AA program not around kids. But as I said, I do not know, but it concerns me. So the ongoing count continues, last time I talked to you and you were not drinking was in High School... I would be proud. You asked why your sister has issues with you, and I tried to give you my perspective, but instead of listening you just attacked me. Well congrads, you have only one brother and sister and one 1/2 bro and sis. Funny, the ones who actually like or speak to you were the ones not around when you were young. No that's not fair I can't speak for the others. So well to sum up, you want a big brother, then get your head out of your ass. I once again I made an overture and you pissed on my outstretched hand. Sorry if you do not want to read about yourself, but its easy to fix, turn off the power switch. But you will never tell me what I can and can not say or think. I don't accept threats from CFM's let alone family. If you don't want the world to know what a CFM you are, then grow up.posted by Chuck Pierce 8:44 PM

Out of order, but about this post....

You are a great guy and it's a shame that he can't see that. It's his loss. He's missing
out on something that could be great with both you and Moonmist. He's got a
fantastick family, I hope someday he wakes up to realise it before it's too late.
little fire10/04/01 09:37am

The odds are not good.
Chuck • 10/04/01 11:31am

Now for the 4'th

Oh and I survived the night without the CFM kicking my ass... I allmost feel special.<br>What a CFM only like 10 people even know where I live right now.posted by Chuck Pierce 6:58 AM

O.K. Hon I am really not trying to make anyone mad, but I was there all day with
Little Bro and I know he wasn't drinking anymore than you were and also he was
drinking the same thing, so how is it he was drunk and you weren't? Also I never saw
him do any drugs so where does that come from? I can honestly say that I have been
here in his home for 5 days and have yet to see him drunk. I was really looking
forward to meeting you and getting to know you for you not your opinion of your
little brother, but I sat outside and listened to you for 25 minutes until I couldn't
take anymore and got up and came inside. I am only married to your older Bro, but I
have been around little bro more than you have in the past few months and know
him better I'm willing to bet. We that live in the South don't sit around and think up
bad things to say about people. All I can say is first impressions last longest and mine
of you isn't very good and WE were hoping for more. You have to understand that
little Bro doesn't sit around talking about others when we are with him he has a good
time showing us the state he lives in and spending time with us. So how about next
time we see you talk to us about your life huh?
Yana
Sis-In-Law (Yana Pierce) 10/04/01 10:18am

OK!! enough of this shit!! There was NOT any drugs that you are claiming! If you
remember (maybe you can't) I brought the HARD Cider from CT up here and I was the
one who invited you over to Little Bro house (without asking I might add), because I
was under a miss conseption that I could make a difference between you two (boy
when I make mistakes I make them). In the South we don't go to someones house and
start making committs about someone elses life or History just to piss them off.
Chuck you made some very nasty comments to me while I was trying to get to know
you. You said around the fire you had no emotions, well I HAVE A LOT and so does Lil
BRO!! When dad died I was in hopes we could get together as a family and start
relationships, not slam people and SAY LIES about them! Dad loved each one of us in
his own way, and CHUCK dad did things to each of us to show us this love. YOU said
YOU GAVE stuff to each of us. WHAT about the shoes you so proudly showed us you
bought with DADS money or credit card? Don't you think we all should have stuff like
that for us to have? I was very upset when you said the thing to me about DAD
forgave me. FOR WHAT? What the f*** did I do to anyone except try to have a father?
How dare you to tell me he forgave me!

I didn't call you for dinner because I was very upset over your comments, and my
wife is upset over it also. You may be able to spend Dad's money and take all his stuff
and keep it from the rest of us, but lil bro and I are having a hard time with Dad's
death, and I personally don't need anyone like you running your mouth to me. I made
my life without YOU and without anyone elses input or desires to get to know me,
until my LIL bro.

He has shown me LOVE and consideration every minute we have been together, and
YES Chuck without DRUGS and being drunk.

HELL CHUCK I got drunk sunday night when I first got here (I am on vaction), does
that mean I fall in to the DRUGS and Drunks catagory you snobbisly put people in?

I want to get to know you, but as you say with your conditions.... ok here are mine!

1. Stop putting Lil BRO down! He has from what you said 1. a better house. 2. A
better family life (raising two kids) 3. He doesn't put you down, we just don't talk
about you, SO when you have a better world, then you can think you are better.


2. Stop assuming you are in control of this family!! I AM!! I am the oldest and I will
TAKE control!

3. I WILL NOT ALLOW any more public displays of this kind of SHIT!! I told you about
writing nasty emails. This is the same, except the world can read this (after all it is
your method of communications not mine). You want to publish your little
thoughs....OK do so, but don't post anymore stuff about the family members, YOU
can call them and talk over your problems with them over the phone.

4. I have relized because you can't get together and have a good time without saying
nasty things, that we should have our own time together, (then if you start slamming
people, I can slap the shit out of you), so after my rules are laid out you can try to
understand where I am comming from, and if you want to try to get to know me then
you will need to put an effort forward. I came up here and I tried to get to know
you, but I couldn't because of the things you said.

OK, now for the rest of the family that reads this, from an outsiders point of view,
CHUCK was WRONG. He didn't try to get along, he tried to start some shit and he did.
There was five people here and four of us all saw the same thing.

I love this place up here and I am planning on another trip to do some (ICE) fishing
and maybe some snow mobiling. It would be nice to do it with BOTH of my brothers.

Larry
big Bro • 10/04/01 10:56am

Well since everyone says I was the instigator I guess I must have been. Lord knows I
can be a pain when I am tired and grumpy. So I guess it was all my fault. And as for
my shoes that Dad's CC paid for they were paid back, hold on let me get a calculator,
between 850 and 1250 times depending on the market and other things. So Guess I
shouldnt have bought them. As to telling you Dad forgave you, take it up with him, I
was just nice enough to try and make you feel better by passing on information.


As to your conditions,
1.I respond as I recieve, period. So easily solved huh?
2.What family? If you mean me and glen, then good luck. As for me I control my own
destiny.
3.No, Same thing applies as to Glen. I was so considerate as to email you with my
thoughts concerning most of this. But as to censorship, No. I will post whatever I
like. If you feel you can not be mentioned then do not come into my sphere of
intrest.
4. I have no recolection of anything I said to start or continue any argument, but my
memory is faulty. I in fact almost never say nasty things, rude and abnoxious often,
but almost never nasty. There is a subtle but distinct differnce. As to putting an
effort forward, I did. You will notice that untill now not one thing has been said even
slightly derogitive about you or your wife. Not one. I rearanged my scedual gladly so I
could spend time with you. I got back into the car with glen as he was drinking an
opened beer and just before he ran a stop sign at about 40 MPH minimum. I did that
not because I wanted to try and patch things up with Glen, but because I was really
trying to keep it together for your sake. I asked for the Gf to please get a babysitter
so we could go out, just the brothers and Wives/Gf's. I was even more than willing to
goto a resturant of Glens choice, even though I disagreed with that choice.
I will accept a large part of any blame you feel you have to toss around, I am sure I
was partly at fault. If for no other reason then for not leaveing earlyer. But even
though I am the king of revisionest history I clearly remember changing the subject in
the car at least 4 times. I clearly remeber you telling glen to let it go. And I clearly
remember him continueing on and on.


So in short, Glad you are haveing a good time. I am sorry that it seems me and glen
are water and oil. If you wish to see me I am as allways more than interested any
place or time.
Chuck 10/04/01 11:25am

Listen to yourselves! Larry when does telling your brother "slapping the shit out of
him" and "I AM in charge" help the issue. I don't recall hearing Chuck talking of
violence or slapping anyone, AND what ever happened to a family being a unit. This
isn't a wolf pack with an Alpha Male leading the way. I'll admit Chuck can be
EXTREMLY stuborn, but the last time I saw little bro(after I hadn't seen him for 8
years) all he could talk about was drugging at a friends batchelor party.

Did you ever stop to think that maybe Chuck might be like he is because he's
disapointed because he wants that family connection too. I would imagine it must
hurt to watch your lil bro doing drugs.

Lastly this is HIS place to vent, to work things out. He thinks things out here so they
make sense, or calm himself before he does things. Hell he told everyone about
seeing the XGF here. Did I like it? Hell no. BUT, I took it as something great that he
even told me this journal was here. I took it as a sign of trust. I would think you
could see that Chuck sharing the fact that this place exsisted with his family was a
way of reaching out to you guys, so you could know what he was up to and to keep
up.
little fire 10/04/01 11:43am

This one was posted AFTER the one below, but because I spent an hour writeing it....It concerns up till now, not the post below...

Well for those of you who have not yet, take a few mins and read the comments from yesterday. I get spanked by folks left and right. Frankly I think they are wrong, and that their vision is either clouded or that they also suffer from creative reconstruction like I do. But that is their right. You really should go read yesterdays comments though, cause I am responding to them here.<br><p>I did misspeak myself and I think that is was started most of the hostilities. Mom had a large number of items of Dad's and asked me which ones I really felt I had to have. After careful thought over a few days I told her what I really wanted and what I thought would be more appreciated by others. Some items I do not remember even having a choice over so I did misspeak myself when in a conversation about them I said " I know I gave you those" And I apologized for it on more than one occasion. That was not my intent, my intent was to say I knew you had them and I had agreed you would treasure them more than me. Seems a dumbass thing to get all caught up over, especially since the items of Dads that I wanted I have talked with him about for 10 years. Only 2 things were really important to me, one was Dad's jackknife. Sounds like a dumb thing to care about in todays throw away world, but to me it was. It originally belonged to my oldest brother who died many many years before I was born. Dad carried it in his pocket every day for as long as I could remember. The covering is all worn down and the blade is way beyond any sharpening but I did not want it to use it. I just remember the many times he cut into an apple with it and handed me a piece. or the way he treasured it for so many years never using it when it was not suitable, walking back to the garage for a carpet knife to cut a small scrap of something when he had a knife in his pocket. It is my only tie to a brother I never met and still know next to nothing about. It now sits on a shelf, where I look at it every day. Sometimes, I even use it to cut up an apple.<br>The other things I really cared about were the guns. Dad's guns are old, they are worth next to nothing and in many cases the safeties are so unsuitable they are unsafe to even carry. But I wanted them cause they remind me of all the good times we had hunting, of Dad teaching me to shoot with them and then correcting my mistakes. Some of them I already had, like his shotgun, cause it was just plain dangerous for him to use. So I had years ago replaced it for him and now the old one is a wall hanger. Glen lately had decided that he wanted one of them, and at first I was going to let him have the 22. But it was the first gun I ever fired, and I remember the stories of when Dad first got it. In fact I have the scope Dad bought back during WW2 when it was so hard to buy anything. When it was replaced for one that Dad could actually see through I took the old one home. The gunshop refused at first to mount it on a 22 for me, saying it would cost more than purchasing a brand new and 100 times better one, but I just smiled and paid happily to have it put on. Many a time I have missed a target because of that scope and just smiled in remembrance. When Mother no longer has a need for it, I will have the old scope remounted and it also will be a treasured part of my collection. Till then, Mother uses it and I will not deprive her of it.<br>Other than that i actually brought very little of Dads home. A few small things like his very old down winter suit, useless to anyone else because it was to small for Dad, but I have many memories of him out snow blowing the driveway with it. And his golf clubs. Since everyone in the family is right handed and they are left, I have been having fun learning to replay golf left handed. And god do I suck, but it is fun and thats the point. Other stupid things, like the Firepoker I helped hold while a blacksmith bent it to Dads exact proportions many years ago, And Dads straw hat he used to wear when the mood came over him. Small things but important to me.<br>Many of the things though I knew others would treasure far more than me and so did Mom. So anyway, once again, I did not mean it in such a way to imply it was only my choice.<br><p>Sigh I guess I should continue this on though I know its a bad idea. But lets give it a try...<br><p>Yana, please reread what I wrote. Lord knows I do enough to get yelled at, at least quote me correctly. Trust me I do enough to get in trouble with out any help. But I stated in there very clearly "Maybe he wasn't drunk, but if so its worse, cause being drunk he at least had an excuse for being such a complete asshole." as to him drinking the same as me that is wrong. I had ONE glass of cider, and I then did not drive for 1.5 hours. Glen was finishing wine when I walked in, he then had cider at least one glass and then opened a beer or 2. Any ANYWAY, it is a moot point, he was driving while his reaction time and judgment was faulty due to the influence of alcohol. Since he drove through a stop sign at over 40 mPH this is I think hard to debate. As to the drugs, as I said clearly he DID do drugs in front of me the time before when I had saw him. Period. And he then bragged and talked about it for 20 mins. He says and I believe him that he would not have if a buddy had not offered it, but that is no excuse at all. I am so sorry that you got a bad impression of me, and I was very much looking forward to meeting you. I noticed you stayed out of the general conversation after a bit but put it down to your allergic reaction and being tired. I am glad if you get along great with Glen, and happy that you enjoy his company so much. I would love to spend time with you and talk about me, it is in fact my favorite subject. Frankly we rarely "sit around and think up bad things to say about people" up here either with a few (glaring) exceptions. The sad fact is that I never sit around and think up things about Glen because I don't think about him. Sad as it is, life is to short to deal with CFM's.<br><p>Larry, Same thing, please reread what I said. You have a the great advantage of not having to argue about what I did and did not say. It is here in black and white. So do try to not misquote it. I already commented on your conditions and I wont escalate this further but to say. (hmm that makes alot of sense don't it.. I wont continue the fight, but before that let me just say this.) I am sorry you feel that I said things "about someone elses life or History just to piss them off" That was not my intent. Hell trust me, we could have a great time getting into it about microsoft and computers, if we wanted to just fight. And I am really sorry that you all seem to take me saying "I am really glad you look like you have your life in order" as a frigging insult. I was glad, it is that simple. Don't tell me that I am saying lies about people unless you got the proof to back it up. I was so complete floored by you and the realization that the argument you and Dad had was partly my fault, That I was and still mostly am willing to do alot to build a relationship. But I can tell you right now, we can be friends, even close family, But if you think you can do that and use words like "I WILL NOT ALLOW" and "I am the oldest and I will TAKE control! " then let me steer you right. You can set any limitation you wish on us getting together I will either meet them or we will not get together, that is as always your right. But you need a hell of a lot more behind you before you can start to tell me what to do or say. And by the same token I can set any conditions on what behavior I will have around me. When Glen stops drinking and drugging and gets his life straight then we can talk. Till then, he is just a part of the nameless masses who can only be pitied. posted by Chuck Pierce 12:46 PM

First of all, I am not a little bro. I weigh two hundred and fifty pounds- and I tower
over most people in this family. I don't understand why there is such a need to
belittle me to cover over one's own insecurities. All I did- nicely and politely- was ask
chuck to please not talk about me over the computer. The last time this happened,
chuck e-mailed everyone in the family that I was dumb as a post and did not know
how to work a cordless phone... What nobody else read (because I have no need to
justify such things be responding) is that Chuck dropped out of high school in the
ninth grade, while I went on to graduate from college with a business degree. It's
hanging on my wall if anybody is interested. I am by no means "stupid" and don't
appreciate being referred to like that by anybody. I never asked to be a focus of this
gay little chat forum, and have no use for it. However I thought it was important to
tell you extremely bored people, that it makes absolutely no sense to me that my
drug and alchohol use is a topic of discussion. I don't do drugs, I never have done
drugs, and I am not some pathetic alchoholic that lives from drink to drink. I just
graduated from real estate school and am starting work next week for DeWolfe. I live
on Sebago Lake and am raising my girlfriends two beautiful children. Chuck did not
try to get along with me the other night, he showed up at my house and put me
down and isulted and belittled me the whole time he was here. Those are not my
words, that is what everyone else saw. And for Chuck to running home and posting
on his website that I was "drinking and drugging" is a bold faced lie... ask anyone that
was here. As far as your girlfriend commenting about me, I have not seen her but
once for 5 minutes in the last ten years. Where do you people get off judging me and
my life when you have not been a part of it ever????? None of you know me, none of
you probably ever will know me, so where does this all come from? I do not get it... I
have no interest in hurting any of you so why would you go so far out your way to
slander me to anyone foolish enough to listen?? I might be a redneck and live out in
the country, but I do not understand any of this- or any of you. Put on the news,
pick out a current event, and talk about something intelligent, other than my
nonexistent party life. I am very sorry that Chuck can't get along with me but don't
kid yourself, HE can't get along with ME. I am totally psyched to have an older
brother in Larry even though it took twenty years to find him. I refuse to surround
myself with people that don't care about me and want to hurt me. Is it really that
much to ask of people that don't even take the time to know me, to not talk about
and blindly insult me??? Explain it to me like I'm a three year old... what is wrong with
you people????? Leave me alone... I'm perfectly happy at this point in my life not to
have any connection to chuck at all. Let's just move on chuck-act like an adult and
grow up.

glen
Glen • 10/04/01 12:26pm

I can't believe I'm responding but here I go...Glen, I used "lil bro" out of respect
because I didn't want to use your real name. I did make that comment about the 5
min encounter we had because it mad me sad. I like your family. I ADORE your Mum, I
love your brother to the ends of the earth, and from the brief encounters with
Moonmist here and the one time I met her, I think she is great. I am sad that I didn't
get to know your Dad better. It sounds like he accomplished a lot of great things in
his life. Including his family. The "encounter" made me sad because I like you too. We
went to school together for a lot of years (I left Y town because of you and your
friends, but that's another story) :) When I bump into you now I want to hear
about...are you ready...YOU and your accomplishments. I want to know that life is
going great for you and the Pierce Family. I didn't want to know what you were doing
at that batchelor party. As for the rest of my comment I probably jumped the gun,
but I felt like defending your brother. Why, because I happen to be able to see
through the grouch and see the great guy that's there. Peace Glen. OK?
little fire 10/04/01 01:08pm

Sigh, this is completely pointless, and a complete waste of my time and effort, but just for shits a giggles lets try it again. So here it is, an open letter to the CFM.<br><p>You in no way nice and politely asked for me to not use your name, you threatened me and went about it very belligerently. The sad fact you CFM is I did NOT use your name till after you made a stupid stink about it. Whom I talk about is none of your damn business, even if it concerns you. Read the constitution moron. If you want to accuse me of Libel, feel free. If you really want to I will dig out the email that happened in what May? I made a joke about you in passing and you acted like I was out to get you. Moron, you are not important enough that I would have a vendetta to try and get you. On that note, I don't believe the word stupid has been used. Once again learn to read what I say before you blow up. I call you CFM cause you are one. Don't like it? Change my perception. Other than that deal with it. You are being called for the way you are acting. Words have meaning, so use them correctly.<br>to quote you, accurately notice, "I don't do drugs, I never have done drugs, and I am not some pathetic alchoholic that lives from drink to drink." Bullshit. Sorry but I watched you. I have watched you many times. For one semantic reason both alcohol and nicotine and caffeine are all drugs, but we were in fact talking about Mary Jane. Lie to the world if you want, I really don't care, but we both know the truth. And we were not alone on the boat you moron. As to drinking, name once I have seen you in the last 10 years where you did not either have something to drink in your hand or next to you. Maybe it is part of your life and you no longer see it, but it has been there. Driving under the influence of any drug is stupid, illegal, and dangerous. Period. Ask the surgeon general or any cop. <br><p>My history with school you can not even get right. Yes I left school with out graduating, Because I was bored. Now a days I would have been diagnosed with ADHD but back then it was not as prevalent. I also got in the top 2 percentile on my sat's (math at least. ehhe) I had a scholarship offer for 3 years waiting for me if I ever wanted to goto school. But I didn't. You would never remember or know that I got the 2nd highest score on the G.E.D. ever recorded in Maine. And I took it one day on a whim after work, 2 years after I left school. As far as I know none of us Pierce kids have ever been called "stupid".<br><p>Once again, learn to read moron, "And for Chuck to running home and posting on his website that I was "drinking and drugging" is a bold faced lie." Yea it is a bold faced lie cause I did not post that, its easy to see it is even time stamped.<br><p>You poor pathetic moron, no one is out trying to get you. I posted my daily thoughts as I do everyday about everything. They were not nearly as harsh as they could have been. You endangered my life and I was stupid enough to get back in the car with you, luckily I do learn from mistakes. As to the GF making comments, she can only speak of what she see's or hears. If you don't like the fact that everyone you grew up with thinks of you with a cloud around your head then don't smoke it. <br><p>As to me trying to hurt you, well I guess thats where you really earn your new acronym (CFM) I could not have been happier that you seemed to have your life in order. I was even willing to give you the benefit of the doubt that the other night was a one time occurrence. But you have made it fairly clear on here by your words that you really "do not get it". If I was not so sad at the way you acted, or bothered by your actions why would I ever bother to talk about you. The fact that I left your house very disappointed and depressed should be a big clear sign maybe that is why we are talking about you. You get judged by your actions, don't like the judgment change the actions.<br><p>What I am afraid you have missed the most, sad as it may be, is. This place exists for me to talk out my problems to myself. If others enjoy reading about a day in my life, fine. But I do it for me. Maybe you failed to read the disclaimer in the journal info so I will quote in part..."Well it is my daily thoughts, expressed in journal form. Before you look at it you should keep a few things in mind. It is MY Journal, so if you do not want to know what I am up to, don't read it. It covers a very wide gamut of rants, thoughts, and feelings. The language used is mine. I rarely bother to edit it for public so if I need to use a certain word to convey my feelings I will. Please also understand I rarely if ever proof read it, or spell check it, and my grammar is to say the least a creation of me. Please do not feel you need to tell me about spelling errors or so forth cause I really do not give a rat's ass about them. My "net" names and my personal name is all meshed here along with my "net" personalities and the real me. If you are easily offended then just go get stuffed now. If you strongly feel love/hate for me, now might also be a good time to go because getting to know the real me might change those views. "<br><p>And to continue...<br>"This page is provided without warrent of any kind as to reliability, accuracy, or actual existence. Chuckpierce.com specifically does not warrant, guarantee, imply or make any representations as to its usefulness for any particular purpose and furthmore shall have no liability for or any responsibility to you or any other person, entity or deity with respect to any loss or damage whatsoever caused by reading, absorbing, understanding, or being read to any parts of this journal or any attempts to vent your rage by hammering your keyboard or dropping your computer into a deep well or by any other means whatsoever and moreover asserts that you indicate your acceptance of this agreement or any other agreement that may be substituted at any time by coming within eyeshot of this journal or by observing it through large telescopes or any other means."<br><p>Says it all doesn't it. I was so willing to help you in any way I could have, I was willing to give you stuff you wanted from Dad, To loan you a gun for your squirrel crusade, Give you webspace with out you even having to ask. And FYI webspace costs $. But I was more than willing to do whatever I could to help you, yet all I hear is that I was attacking you. <br> It is sad cause you could learn so much about me, no innuendo, no why did he say that, its all here in black and white. My thoughts my feelings as I have them. I have had a hard year, lost damn near everything I loved through no fault of my own. And yet I continue and come on here to help myself work through it. I am so sorry you feel you do not have a place here, but deal with it. I allow other people the opportunity to submit feedback, this is a choice I made. You could use this opportunity to actually learn what I was upset about (by um, reading?) or continue to be a CFM. Either way, you do not now nor will you ever be able to control my content. You end by telling me to grow up, well Ok. That is the general idea. posted by Chuck Pierce 3:03 PM

Chuck,
OK Here goes, again I am not trying to make anyone mad here, after all I have only
been married to your brother for three years and known your other (little) brother
for a few months, but again I heard you say like three times "This is how sad Glen is"
No-one was paying attention because it just isn't something you do. You don't go to
someone's home and sit on their deck and procede to tell them how "sad" they are. I
don't recall saying anything to you about a reaction to anything or being tired, so
like you said don't qoute me unless you do so right. In fact when I got up and went in
the house I don't recall saying anything to anyone. I'm not that kind of person. I do
want to get to know you for the person you are Chuck, after all you are a part of my
family. I just don't want to come to spend time with you and all I hear about it how
sad someone else is. I wasn't with you guys when you went up on the hill to see the
moon, but just so you know that is something your "older bro" really wanted to do,
so I can't comment on what happened there, I do know that "older bro" and "little
bro" both said that he opened one beer and had only taken one drink from it when
they got back inside. Yes he was having a glass of wine and yes he drank the hard
cider, but to say he was drunk is your verison, not everyone else's. I have been
taught that you stand up for family no matter what and believe it or not both you
and "little bro" are my family now. You want to know the truth? Do you know how
much you hurt "older bro" by even saying the first negitive thing about anyone? That
just isn't something we do. Larry was hoping to have two brothers he could have a
good time with, not two that were at each other all the time. As far as Larry and
your dad having a fight, that didn't happen. It wasn't your father he had a fight with
it was your sister. Why would you say something to someone that never got to really
know his father, due to things beyond his control, that his father forgave him for
whatever he did to him? He didn't do anything but be born and quite frankly that was
your father's and his mother's fault not his. Larry loved his father and would never do
anything to hurt him. That just wasn't cool. Now with that said, Let's start over and
do things the right way OK? Let's get to know each other for who we are please. I
don't see any point in fighting. It only hurts it doesn't help anyone. I don't know you
well, but you are family and in the end what does anyone really have except family?

Yana
Sis-In-Law 10/04/01 10:49pm

I just wanted to let you know I talked with Big Bro about the words with your father.
You are right I was wrong, it was with your father, I was thinking of something else. I
also wanted to comment on the issue with the golf clubs. I believe you are a good
person, after all I know you father(not near as well as I would have liked), mother,
older sis, little bro, and am married to big bro. I know all of the above are good
people. You mentioned that you wanted the knife because your father used to cut
apples with and it belonged to Johnny(which big bro has Johnny's boy scout badges
and named his son after him, so can understand that you want the knife), you also
said that you wanted the guns for they reminded you of your father helping you
shoot, well big bro didn't have his father to teach him to shoot a gun, ride a bike,
cut apples for him, or even to beat his a** when he did something wrong, the one
truely fond memory he has of his father is taking him golfing about a year before he
passed away, that is the reason the golf clubs we so important to him, not because
they are left handed, or they are worth anything, not because he would ever really
use them, but because what he remembers with foundness is going to play golf with
his father. I also wanted to say like your GF I adore you mother, she has always been
very nice to me and I want to say Happy Birthday to her also. Again I really do want
to get to know you and look forward to that time.

Yana
P.S. This was meant as a little insight into big bro for you, it isn't meant to hurt or
cause bad feelings, I just wanted to help you get to know big bro some better, and
thought this might help.
Sis-In-Law 10/05/01 01:58pm

Yana, Sorry for the delay in answering you, but this was a busy weekend for me. You
deserved a timely response to your statements and I am sorry there was so much
delay in my answering them. Saying "This is how sad Glen is" in a sentence is a figure
of speech. I completely believe you that I said it repeatedly, but if you remember the
context I would not be surprised if they were all followed by funny anecdotes from
the CFM over the years. Fact is he has done a lot of really amusing things when you
look at it 10 years later. But anyway it was not meant to indicate he was actually sad.
I do agree it is not a really good figure of speech and I will try to curb it, but also I
should say 90% of the time it is used I use it to describe myself. Anyway, it was not
meant as an insult but was just a commonly used figure of speech, but you are
correct I should only use it when referring to myself.
As to me saying he was drunk, again, my words were drinking. Please go reread it,
Only time I used drunk was in the negative. He was drinking and it is unsafe, unwise,
and really damn stupid not to mention against the law to drive while under the
influence. But as I have also said, I should never have let my wish to just get along
and make Larry happy convince me to get in the car with him. Yana let me say this
again loud and clear, I do not drive after drinking. I give myself 1.5% over what the
state says is needed time for a drink to wear off. Why? cause if I am ever so unlucky
to be in an accident where someone is hurt, I do not want to feel the guilt that my
reactions were slowed because of it. TCM has never learned this. Please don't even
consider debating with me that he does not drive after drinking, the most you could
say is he no longer does, and that would have to be a change since I last saw him.
I am sorry that I hurt Larry by being so negative, but I also do not remember being
that way. I think that part of it was a linguistics difference and a perception
difference. You certainly have made me aware that some of the things I said could be
considered negative even if they were not meant that way. But that being said I also
remember Larry many times telling Glen to let it go, something that seems to have
disappeared from memory. And for the record I do not consider this discussion
tween you and me fighting, I call it discussing. I have never made any bones about
the fact I do often put my foot in my mouth, but I also have no problem discussing it.
Now for part 2...

The golf clubs... One. I had no idea anyone cared for them.. Period. Two. When
Larry asked I said sure he could have one if he wanted, even though it kinda ruins
them as a set. Three. when that changed to him wanting them all I still have not said
boo about them. Four. I see no reason why you could not have flown home with
them, oh wait, I forget I was person non gratis. Five. I am positive Mother had no idea
the clubs meant anything at all to Larry, she just does not work that way. Six.
Contrary to popular opinion I did not in fact clean out the house, the golf clubs are
by far the largest thing I took and I have used them many times since then, even
though not nearly as many times as I would have liked. Seven to reiterate, I had NO
problem giving the clubs to Larry or even splitting them all up tween us, and I said so.
I figured it was a done issue till I was blown off for the rest of the week. Eight. A
large portion of the reason I took them was to get them out of the way. Mom did not
need the reminder of seeing them every time she walked into the garage. Glen has
never shown an interest in golf, and I had no idea you did. Hence once again the
reason this was never a debatable topic for me.
Thank you for your insight into Larry, and as I think you can see by my reply I do not
in anyway believe it was trying to hurt or cause bad feelings. I have many problems
with my communication skills and this is the place where I work on them. Thank you
for taking the time to give me insight. As I think you can also tell I do resent a bit the
fact no one bothered to actually get the facts or listen/read what I said before many
people jumped to conclusions. Also I am frankly sick of hearing everyone wanted so
much to spend time with me, but didn't. I was available for the whole week, In my
ever so humble opinion you did me a wrong by not taking the time to go out to
dinner with me and discuss this and many other subjects as I repeatedly said I
wanted too. But I also reconise you did not have the final say in that.
Chuck 10/07/01 11:19am